国外玩家激烈讨论 俄洛伊过于强势是否要削

2016-07-06 14:19 | 责任编辑:Sayonara | 内容来源:全球电竞网 | 我要评论

  相信在近来的版本,俄洛伊是许多玩家的噩梦。小编当初就用阿卡丽和她对过线,简直被吊打的生活不能自理,实在太残暴了。国外的玩家似乎相同的感受,日前在论坛上就吐槽得十分激烈,让我们来看看吧!

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submitted 16小時前 by YumaS2Astral

While I think that Illaoi was very weakbefore, on my opinion Riot over-buffed her. Her E is far too oppressive andwhile it isn't incredibly easy to hit, it is not as hard to hit as people maythink. The damage that it does, however, is very high. Illaoi can use it todamage you from a distance even if you refuse to duel her. Also, with one ortwo items, Illaoi can actually 1x2 and sometimes even 1x3.

She is a bit like Darius in that she is oppressiveagainst many melees, except that she is harder to kite and actually has rangeddamage which makes her better against ranged champions than Darius ever couldhope to be.

I don't know if people also share the sameopinion as myself, but I think that Illaoi is far too oppressive early, theonly champion that I don't get completely stomped on early by Illaoi isVladimir and that's only because he can sustain himself and is ranged (also Ican use his pool to dodge her E). I have no success against Illaoi as any otherchampion.

What I think Riot could do to tone down Illaoi:Reduce her E damage (or at least increase its cooldown), fix her Q's hitbox(sometimes you think that it will not hit but it hits) and maybe tone down hersustain but that might not be necessary.

*之前俄洛伊实在太弱了,但我想现在拳头对她的加强有点过度了。她的E现在有点太强势了,虽然并不是很容易打到人,但也并不是和人们想的那样那么难打到,而且伤害巨高。此外,俄洛伊用E可以从远距离打到你,即使你并不想鸟她。如果她同时又有了一两件装备,那么她就可以一打二甚至一打三了。

她有一点像诺手,所以她在混战中的非常强势。同时她也很难被风筝,她远距离的攻击距离让她在对抗远程英雄时都不落下风,这一点是诺手梦寐以求的优势。

我不知道大家是否和我想得一样,但是俄洛伊前期实在太腻害了,我唯一可以用来和她对线并且前期不落下风的就是吸血鬼了,主要是因为吸血鬼的血池可以躲她的E还有吸血可以治疗自己。而我用别的英雄就不行了。

我觉得可以从以下方面削弱下俄洛伊:降低她E的伤害(至少是拉高冷却时间),修改她Q的伤害触发范围(有时候你觉得她没打到你,但是你错了),还有就是削弱她的赖线能力,不过看起来好像不太可能。

[]edallsant 1274 指標 15小時前

It's easy, she's just a lane bully thatwill be constantly pushing, call your jungler and give her a free doble kill.

*这个问题很好回答她完全就是一个线霸不停的推线你把打野叫来也只会送双杀

[]Firedrakez 91 指標 14小時前

I've basically been saying this sincerelease, she's like a tanky AD Heimerdinger, you don't want to gank that.

*在她被拳头推出来那天起我就一直说她是AD版的大头你根本就不想去Gank

[]PatentlyWillton 27 指標 14小時前

She has even better dueling potentialcompared to Heimer thanks to her self-heal from her Q.

*她比大头在战斗中的潜力大太多了因为她的Q能治疗她

[]Firedrakez 6 指標 13小時前

That and just generally being more tanky Ithink. Heimerdinger relies a lot on Exhaust/Zhonya, if he doesn't have those hejust gets blown up.

*她比大头肉太多了大头更多要靠虚弱或者中娅如果他没有这些技能完全就是个瓜皮

[]YumaS2Astral[S] 97 指標 15小時前

That's exactly one of my problems with her,unless you gank her very early (first levels) ganking her is a bad idea becauseshe has high 1x2 potential

*这也是我的一个问题除非你很就去GANK否则晚了去GANK她就是非常烂的点子很有可能送一波双杀

[]SlayEverythingIGN57 指標 13小時前*

Even if she's behind she can 1v2.

Illaoi is very strong 1v1 (probably thebest top laner in this regard), but team fighting wise, unless you dive intoher she's pretty worthless.

Whenever I'm against an Illaoi (as a jungler,cause fuck top lane I hate that role), I make sure to let my top laner know toback off after she ults. When you're ganking her all you have to do is forceher ult, then stop fighting her. If she doesn't have the threat of her ult mosttop laners can solo her after that.

*即使她全方位落后她也能1v2

*俄洛伊在1v1中非常强势(很有可能是这个版本最好的上单)团战也很强除非你太怂了

[]sufijoMathIsLife 17指標 12小時前

Illaoi has this shitty thing where, if youdisengage right after she ults, then you can teamfight with a pretty goodadvantage, but if your team keeps fighting under her ult you're going to getdicked hard.

Alas, most people don't really back awayafter illaoi ults :(

*到处都是俄洛伊那些草蛋的触手但是你一旦在她放R之后把那些鬼东西清除掉那你对她就有极大的优势了但如果你们的团战是在她的R里面打的你们基本没得玩了

*而且,大多数人在她放R之后并不会躲开:(

[]Vayatir 13 指標 12小時前

Alas, most people don't really back awayafter illaoi ults :(

This is the only reason people think Illaoiis hard to deal with, imo. Laning against her is an unfunny experience, butlate-game she has almost nothing outside of her ult. If you don't fight her inher ult, then she's fairly useless. Problem is solo queue just naturallyovercommits to fights.

*而且,大多数人在她放R之后并不会躲开:(

*在我看来这就是人们认为俄洛伊很难对付的唯一解了

*和她对线非常没有乐趣但是比赛后期她就是基本没有什么用了除了她的大招如果你不在她的大招里打团那她基本就没有用了问题是单人路对线实在太无解了

[]sufijoMathIsLife 5 指標 12小時前

We need to make a mod so that when Illaoiults, the tentacles she spawns look like mini-illaois, anyone would run awayfrom a 5v8+.... right?

*我们需要把她的大招改成当她放大的时候那些触手会看起来像缩小版俄洛伊看到5v8的情景还有谁会不跑么。。。对吗?

[]csuazure 17 指標 12小時前

Would you rather fight 1 illaoi sized tentacleor 5 tentacle sized illaois?

*那你是愿意和一个正常尺寸的俄洛伊对线还是愿意和5个缩小版俄洛伊对线啊?

[]Violentlyforward 2 指標 7小時前

Just the thought of it makes me want tolock Vayne and Q forward

*想到这个我的想把我的VN封印起来了或者一直向前Q

[]schweinepriest 8 指標 13小時前

A lot of people dont know how to fight herproperly. They do not attempt to move at all to dodge tentacles or bait her ultwhich is really confusing. Her biggest strength is standing still and fightingand so many people give her fights she wants and then complain afterwards.

*很多人不知道该如何和俄洛伊对抗他们完全不会去试图躲开她的触手和R 这很让我疑惑*她站撸非常厉害然后很多就这么和她站撸给了她最想要的方式之后又抱怨

  唔,的确,正如国外玩家所说,很多朋友在对抗她的时候完全不会去躲开她的R,团战就在她的大招里一直打来打去,看来很多时候意识还是需要提高啊XD不知道大家怎么想呢?

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